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Re: Unidentified subject!

Mike Neuffer wrote:
>
> The moment Debian moves to .rpm, Debian is dead. The only advantage we
> have over RH is the superior packaging system. It still needs to mature
> quite a bit, but we wil get to that point eventually.
> 

I agree completely with this.

> I would just wish that some people would really as I suggested before take
> a close look at what FreeBSD is doing. Defining an essential core system
> (ca. 60-100MB installed binary size) that contains everything an Unix
> system needs to run _properly_ is an essential step.
> 

I'm not so sure I agree with this...but I'll consider it.

> The sources for this system should be in ONE source tree so that it can be
> build with one command (known as "make world" in all BSD and most
> professional Unix systems). This will give us one essential system
> where everything fits together and where you have no problems because one
> developer compiled a package in this or that special evironment. It would
> also make sure that all packages are really compileable.
> 

I have a serious problem with this.  Back when I was first trying to
install a unix clone on a PC, I had to choose between 386bsd and
Linux 0.99.  I found the two systems more or less equal in most
important areas, because I had no particular sysv/bsd loyalties at
that time.  Why I chose linux over BSD?  Because I saw the universal,
single-tree BSD source as centralized, ugly, and fascist.  The linux
idea of modular and independent source packages struck me as superior,
both in a practical and aesthetic sense.

I can see how the universal source tree would look very appealing.  But
please, please try to understand my point of view.  I'm sure I'm not
the only one who holds it.  Then again, perhaps I am.  

--Galen


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